And here are the NL 2008 APBA pitching grades that just came out.
Again, no time yet to really look them through but Edison Volquez gets a 16!
thanks to Bruce Norlander for assembling the grades and posting them on Between the Lines
The NL Pitchers (here are the AL pitchers)
Hinckley Mike WSH 0.00 14* Y Z
Valdez Merkin SF 1.69 9 15* Y
Lidge Brad PHI 1.95 21* XY W
Nelson Joe FLA 2.00 18* XY
Beimel Joe LAD 2.02 17*
Rhodes Arthur FLA 2.04 17* XY
Harden Rich CHC 2.07 16 XY
Romo Sergio SF 2.12 14* XY Z
Kuo Hong-Chih LAD 2.14 13 17* XY Z
Shell Steven WSH 2.16 18* X
Buchholz Taylor COL 2.17 17* X Z
Wade Cory LAD 2.27 16* Y Z
Samardzija Jeff CHC 2.28 16* Y W
Wagner Billy NYM 2.30 16* XY Z
Springer Russ STL 2.32 16* X
Adams Mike SD 2.48 16* XY Z
Saito Takashi LAD 2.49 16* XY
Santana Johan NYM 2.53 15 X Z
Geary Geoff HOU 2.53 16* Y
Cruz Juan ARI 2.61 17* XY W
Lincecum Tim SF 2.62 17 XY
Marmol Carlos CHC 2.68 17* XY W
Sabathia CC MIL 2.70 14 XY Z
Fuentes Brian COL 2.73 14* XY
Romero J.C. PHI 2.75 16* X W
Qualls Chad ARI 2.81 12* X Z
Shouse Brian MIL 2.81 12* Z
Grabow John PIT 2.84 16* Y W
Peavy Jake SD 2.85 13 X
Durbin Chad PHI 2.87 14* Y
Bray Bill CIN 2.87 13* XY
Volstad Chris FLA 2.88 11
Hampson Justin SD 2.93 11* – Z
Dempster Ryan CHC 2.96 14 X
Grilli Jason COL 3.00 14* Y
Capps Matt PIT 3.02 9* Z (ZZ?)
Madson Ryan PHI 3.05 12* Y Z
Hamels Cole PHI 3.09 12 X Z
Sheets Ben MIL 3.09 12 Y Z
Broxton Jonathan LAD 3.13 12* XY
Billingsley Chad LAD 3.14 13 X
Lindstrom Matt FLA 3.14 12* Y
Hudson Tim ATL 3.17 11 Z
Wainwright Adam STL 3.20 11 Y Z
Stetter Mitch MIL 3.20 12* XY W
Volquez Edinson CIN 3.21 16 XY W
Buckner Billy ARI 3.21 9* Y Z
Burton Jared CIN 3.22 13* X
Lowe Derek LAD 3.24 11 Y Z
Weathers David CIN 3.25 12*
Condrey Clay PHI 3.26 11* Z
Wood Kerry CHC 3.26 11* XY Z
Mercker Kent CIN 3.29 10* W
Webb Brandon ARI 3.30 14 Y Z
Haren Dan ARI 3.33 12 X Z
Affeldt Jeremy CIN 3.33 12* X
Cordero Francisco CIN 3.33 14* XY W
Schoeneweis Scott NYM 3.34 11*
Valverde Jose HOU 3.38 10* XY Z
Park Chan Ho LAD 3.40 9 12* Y
Hinshaw Alex SF 3.40 13* XY W
Gregg Kevin FLA 3.41 14* Y W
Perez Chris STL 3.46 13* X W
Torres Salomon MIL 3.49 12*
Stults Eric LAD 3.49 6 Y Z
Stokes Brian NYM 3.51 4 8* Y Z
Nolasco Ricky FLA 3.52 12 X Z L
Seanez Rudy PHI 3.53 13* W
Oswalt Roy HOU 3.54 12 Y Z
Rodriguez Wandy HOU 3.54 10 X
Franklin Ryan STL 3.55 11*
Smith Joe NYM 3.55 10* Y
Yabu Keiichi SF 3.57 11*
Acosta Manny ATL 3.57 11*
Bell Heath SD 3.58 11* X
Carlyle Buddy ATL 3.59 11* X
Julio Jorge ATL 3.60 11* XY W
Johnson Josh FLA 3.61 11 X
Wuertz Michael CHC 3.63 10*
Jurrjens Jair ATL 3.68 10 Y
Ohman Will ATL 3.68 9* X
Waechter Doug FLA 3.69 8* Y Z
Happ J.A. PHI 3.69 5 6* Y
Bennett Jeff ATL 3.70 7 10* Y
Maholm Paul PIT 3.71 10
Moyer Jamie PHI 3.71 11
Wellemeyer Todd STL 3.71 10 Y
Pelfrey Mike NYM 3.72 10
Kuroda Hiroki LAD 3.73 8 Z
Cain Matt SF 3.76 9 Y
Hoffman Trevor SD 3.77 8* XY Z
Lohse Kyle STL 3.78 10 Z
Marshall Sean CHC 3.86 5 7* X
Nunez Vladimir ATL 3.86 6* Y
Byrdak Tim HOU 3.90 9* Y W
Zambrano Carlos CHC 3.91 8
Lannan John WSH 3.91 7
Johnson Randy ARI 3.91 6 X Z
Campillo Jorge ATL 3.91 5 Y Z
Hawkins LaTroy HOU 3.92 8* Y
Masset Nick CIN 3.92 4 8* Y
Brocail Doug HOU 3.93 6* X Z
Hanrahan Joel WSH 3.95 8* XY
Cook Aaron COL 3.96 8 Z
Young Chris SD 3.96 7 X
Rivera Saul WSH 3.96 8* Y
Jimenez Ubaldo COL 3.99 9 Y W
McClung Seth MIL 4.02 7 9* Y W
Karstens Jeff PIT 4.03 4 Z
McClellan Kyle STL 4.04 7* Y
Feliciano Pedro NYM 4.05 5* X
Lieber Jon CHC 4.05 4 Z
Speier Ryan COL 4.06 7*
Sadler Billy SF 4.06 7* X W
Villanueva Carlos MIL 4.07 4 5* Y Z
Lilly Ted CHC 4.09 7 X
Meredith Cla SD 4.09 6* Y
Mota Guillermo MIL 4.11 8* Y W
Rauch Jon ARI 4.14 5* X Z
Beam T.J. PIT 4.14 6*
Arias Alberto HOU 4.15 6 7* W
Looper Braden STL 4.16 5 Z
Ledezma Wil ARI 4.17 5 7* Y W
Mock Garrett WSH 4.17 5 7* XY W
Bush Dave MIL 4.18 5 Z
Maine John NYM 4.18 7 Y W
Olsen Scott FLA 4.20 5 Z
Rosales Leo ARI 4.20 5*
Eyre Scott PHI 4.21 4* XY Z
Perez Oliver NYM 4.22 8 X W
Maddux Greg LAD 4.22 5 Z
Sampson Chris HOU 4.22 4 5* Z
Kensing Logan FLA 4.23 7* X W
Miller Justin FLA 4.24 5* X
Kershaw Clayton LAD 4.26 7 X W
Troncoso Ramon LAD 4.26 5* X
Gonzalez Mike ATL 4.28 5* XY
Cotts Neal CHC 4.29 5* XY
Wolf Randy HOU 4.30 6 Y
Colome Jesus WSH 4.31 7* Y W
Petit Yusmeiro ARI 4.31 4 Y Z
Davis Doug ARI 4.32 5 Y
Sanchez Duaner NYM 4.32 5* Y
Pena Tony ARI 4.33 4* Y Z
Perez Odalis WSH 4.34 5 Y
Parra Manny MIL 4.39 6 Y
Gaudin Chad CHC 4.40 4 Z
Pinto Renyel FLA 4.45 7* Y W
Lincoln Mike CIN 4.48 5* Y
Corpas Manuel COL 4.52 4* Z
Marquis Jason CHC 4.53 5
Myers Brett PHI 4.55 4 Y
Moehler Brian HOU 4.56 4 Z
Walker Tyler SF 4.56 4* X
Figueroa Nelson NYM 4.57 5 6* Y W
Medders Brandon ARI 4.58 4*
Wilson Brian SF 4.62 6* XY
Yates Tyler PIT 4.66 7* Y W
Villone Ron STL 4.68 6* X W
Blanton Joe PHI 4.69 4
Lyon Brandon ARI 4.70 5* Y Z
Slaten Doug ARI 4.73 4*
Estes Shawn SD 4.74 4
Banks Josh SD 4.75 4
Burnett Sean PIT 4.76 6* Y W
Arroyo Bronson CIN 4.77 7 Y
Harang Aaron CIN 4.78 3 Y Z
Baek Cha Seung SD 4.79 4 Z
Cueto Johnny CIN 4.81 4 Y
Duke Zach PIT 4.82 3 Z
Hampton Mike ATL 4.85 4
Taschner Jack SF 4.88 4* Y
De La Rosa Jorge COL 4.92 5 X
Redding Tim WSH 4.95 5
Suppan Jeff MIL 4.96 4
Sanchez Jonathan SF 5.01 6 X W
Francis Jeff COL 5.01 3
Wright Wesley HOU 5.01 6* X W
Zito Barry SF 5.15 5 W
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